Lucic torches Vancouver, ironically, after ‘unprovoked attack’ caught on video

No prophet is accepted in his home town, Jesus said shortly after the people of Nazareth brushed him off as the carpenter’s son, and if that statement holds true, I can guess we can infer that Vancouver-born Milan Lucic is a prophet. (Far be it from me to compare to Lucic to Jesus, mind you, since Jesus was far less concerned with making sure people knew who he was.)

Lucic and his family have already been victimized a few times by moronic Vancouver fans. During the Stanley Cup Final, some idiot Canucks boosters threw food at his grandparents. Shortly after the Final, his family’s church in Burnaby was vandalized.

And on Saturday night, some Vancouverite managed to complete the dumb fan hat trick, allegedly punching Lucic in the head without provocation while the Bruins’ forward was out blowing off some steam after the loss to the Canucks.

The next night, a video of the aftermath made the rounds. Warning: this video features strong language, and idiots:

We were tipped off to this video early yesterday evening, but we passed on picking it up for a few reasons: for one thing, I’m pretty sick of writing about Milan Lucic’s personal life. The post on his girlfriend bickering with Cory Schneider’s girlfriend remains one of my least favourite pieces of writing. And for another thing, if we wrote something every time someone passed along a story of a drunk guy and a drunk hockey player getting into it, well, this blog would become Pass it to Breathalyzer in a hurry.

But on Monday morning, the story gained legs when Lucic torched his hometown (because you can take the man out of Vancouver, but you can’t take the Vancouver out of the man). Alleging that the attack was unprovoked, with a guy striking him once inside a nightclub and then again outside as he was trying to get something to eat, Lucic went on to express his disgust with the city. From CSNNE:

“That’s one of the worst parts . . . that it’s in my hometown,” Lucic said. “Going back to the spray painting of the church and my grandparents, parents and family getting harassed during the Stanley Cup Finals in 2011, and now it’s escalated to the point where I get attacked for minding my own business.

“I have no reason left to try and defend my city, and the people of my city. I’m done trying to defend the city I’m from. I’m disgusted and outraged that it had to come to that. Other than being at Rogers Arena, no one will ever see me in downtown Vancouver ever again.”

It’s a shame it took an unprovoked attack for Lucic to realize downtown Vancouver is the worst. I’ve been downtown on a Saturday night after a Canucks game and I didn’t need to get punched by one of the many morons out and about to decide I’d be doing beverages in Gastown or Kits for ever after.

And it’s also a shame that Lucic had suddenly decided Vancouver is entire indefensible, especially since the video above showcases a bunch of guys defending him and explaining his side of the story to police. And heck, while some jerks were outside flipping cop cars, a lot of people stayed in Rogers Arena to cheer the hometown kid lifting the Cup.

But more than that, it’s a shame because Lucic is within reason to be as frustrated with Vancouver as he is, and it’s frustrating to me that after a night where the Bruins were embarrassed, both by the Canucks and, as Claude Julien indicated after the game, by Brad Marchand, some dumb fan had to go and ruin a good thing by once again giving this city a bad name.

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Harrison Mooney is the co-editor of Pass it to Bulis at The Vancouver Sun. Have a tip? Email him at harrisonmooney@gmail.com or follow him on Twitter!

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73 comments

  1. peanutflower
    December 16, 2013

    Well, I would respectfully disagree with some of this. First, aside from the snippet of video, no one knows what the “true” story really is. Second, Lucic isn’t exactly a saint in public places. There are stories out there that paint Lucic in quite a different picture. “Don’t you know who I am.” I mean, really, who says that. Usually only people who want other people to know who they are.

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    • Arkamis
      December 16, 2013

      You use the plural to “story,” and yet use only a single example.

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      • peanutflower
        December 16, 2013

        that wasn’t the reference.

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      • shoes
        December 17, 2013

        read further down for further info….. The defense of Lucic here is more about the image of the City which Vancouverites are way to worried about. I like my city and have never had any worse problems than other cities I have lived in for over 5 years.

        Even after the SCF, people were just a little upset at Collie and his crew.

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    • PaulMackay
      December 16, 2013

      Considering who it’s coming from it could be a warning. I mean not exactly someone you should pick a fight with.

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    • Chris the Curmudgeon
      December 16, 2013

      You sure are quick to rush to his defence based on only his side of the story here Harrison. He’s clearly pretty drunk himself, hanging out outside of a nightclub on a Saturday night acting fairly belligerent, so I don’t know if I’d be so quick to rush to judgment here. Personally, I somewhat doubt he’s a completely innocent victim here.

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  2. perhaps_but_not_likely
    December 16, 2013

    I am not sure where the “unprovoked Attack” comes from, very little is seen on the video and to be honest I have a hard time believing he Is an innocent bystander in this, when has he ever been? Although I do agree that Vancouver fans clearly need to get a grip at times.

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  3. wkc
    December 16, 2013

    What’s Lucic doing slurring drunkenly outside the Roxy at 4am? That’s pretty much an invitation for trouble, don’t you think? I live downtown and there are plenty of nice places to party, but that’s definitely not one of them.

    The guy can rent a whole party suite at the Shangri-La if he wants, and he winds up on the verge of tears shouting “He hit me two times! No, he hit me three times!” on Granville? Then whines about the entire city? Come on, man.

    You can find belligerent drunks in any city. Trust me, Boston has a lot more belligerent drunks than Vancouver. True, Vancouver rioted over hockey, but Boston rioted over desegregating school buses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_busing_crisis

    Bruins fans on twitter erupted with racism when Joel Ward scored a Game 7 winning goal against them. Which of these is really more indefensible?

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    • Bridget
      December 17, 2013

      Btown twitter fans also were also slamming PK Subban after a game, apparently they forgot that his brother was signed by their holy team.

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  4. David_P
    December 16, 2013

    I don’t blame him for bashing the city. Vancouver is one of the only first-world cities outside of industrial Northern England where peoples’ idea of a good time is to get into a fight. Gastown and Kits are better than Granville st. for sure, but there are still plenty of wanna-be tough guys and gangsters in those areas too (way more than other Canadian/American cities). I don’t know why so many people here act like this, I’ve felt more comfortable going out for beers in certain third-world cities than downtown Vancouver….it’s an embarrassment to our city.

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    • Noodle
      December 16, 2013

      “peoples’ idea of a good time is to get into a fight”
      “I’ve felt more comfortable going out for beers in certain third-world cities than downtown Vancouver….it’s an embarrassment to our city.”

      Not sure what part of Vancouver you hang out in. This is not my experience with this city in all my years of living here. It has it’s bad eggs like any other, no worse, no better.

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    • Naturalmystic
      December 16, 2013

      Never been to Sudbury on a Saturday night?

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      • akidd
        December 17, 2013

        spent a weekend in kingston,ont, once. your self-preservation sweat starts flowing instantly. it was like gladiators roaming the streets. those dudes have lost their minds.

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    • Bridget
      December 17, 2013

      I guess you’ve never been to LA, or certain parts of Orange County. I had to stop a fight between a friend of mine and his ex gf’s brother that the bouncers turned a blind eye to because they know the guy. This is not the only fight to happen at this bar. A bunch of dumbass bro’s who drink too much start stupid fights. Everywhere.

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  5. Snepsts
    December 16, 2013

    Granville Street is full of suburbanites and tourists on the weekends. No one who actually lives in Vancouver is anywhere near lame, scummy Granville Street on the weekends. He sounds just like the average Roxy denizen: big, dumb, bewildered stumbling moron from some dormant, cookie cutter cul-de-sac.

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    • ikillchicken
      December 16, 2013

      Wow, could you possibly be any more of a snob? Congrats on being gods gift to humanity for being from downtown instead of the suburbs.

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  6. Lyg
    December 16, 2013

    Thanks, Harrison, for more or less summing up my feelings about this: frustration and disgust. Lucic no doubt didn’t make the wisest of choices in going out in downtown Vancouver on Saturday night, but my lack of sympathy for him is far, far outweighed by embarrassment and frustration over this city’s dumbass “fans”, who in no way represent the rest of us who support the Canucks.

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    • Pavo
      December 16, 2013

      Lyg,

      Why do you feel the need to be embarrassed?

      Twenty somethings; booze; wee hours, pub scene. I am positive that that particular combination led to many, many punches and fights that night – in Vancouver, and hundreds (if not thousands) of other cities on the planet.

      Why are we rending our garments over this particular instance?

      The only reason this is news is because Milan chose to make it so.

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      • Lyg
        December 16, 2013

        I feel embarrassed because rightly or wrongly, this incident will reflect poorly on Vancouver, a city I am otherwise generally proud of. It will moreover reflect poorly on the Canucks, even though they had nothing to do it. And all of that leads me to feel frustrated, especially because the incident is in danger of overshadowing a game that we should be celebrating.

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        • Pavo
          December 17, 2013

          Actually Lyg, it doesn’t reflect poorly, or positively, or anything else on Vancouver. This scene repeats itself millions of times a day across the world. It’s a nothing. That’s exactly my point.

          Short of strict prohibition laws and employing a draconian morality police, you could never
          get rid of public drunkenness – anywhere on the planet!

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    • Pavo
      December 17, 2013

      Also Lyg,

      Want to know why few people take potshots at the Londons, New Yorks and Paris’ of this world?

      For one, the good citizens of those cities don’t give two hoots about outsiders’ opinions. For another, they counter-punch very effectively.

      Case in point – Mitt Romney’s rather unwise comments as to how poor he considered London’s preparations for the 2012 Olympics to be, compared to those at Salt Lake City (of which Romney was a part).

      The poor man was treated to wall to wall ‘Mitt the Twit!’ headlines and narratives during his London visit.

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  7. Noodle
    December 16, 2013

    “Lucic is within reason to be as frustrated with Vancouver as he is”

    I totally agree. He has been treated poorly by some pathetic people. I hate how some jerks have treated him and there’s no excuse for their behavior. I also get that he has reached a point where he feels like he’s done with this city – I might feel the same way if I was him.

    My issue is that his choice of words paint the city of Vancouver as a whole as a terrible place. That’s what bothers me. Those jerks are the small minority, and every city has them. We’re good people, I swear!

    It’s unfortunate that this post will probably turn into a Boston versus Vancouver flame war…

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  8. peanutflower
    December 16, 2013

    But it’s the whole “I’m tired of defending Vancouver” trope. What is that? When did that happen? It makes it sound like he’s been acting as some sort of goodwill ambassador for Vancouver and telling everyone what a great city it is. Every city has its share of idiots. In Boston riots, and there have been a few, people have died. Yet somehow Vancouver and its hockey team get portrayed as the worst of the worst, not least in a situation where a drunk pro athlete, who isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed at the best of times, gets in an altercation outside a bar at closing time that in any other scenario would go without comment. Something that happens dozens of times a night, I dare say.

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    • dontpassjustshoot
      December 16, 2013

      Agreed. And I liked Harrison’s point about Lucic saying he has no reason left to defend his city, when it holds a group of people who hung around and stuck up for him according to the video (full disclosure, I haven’t bothered to watch it.)

      Great & balanced post, Harrison, full of good points. Did you get deja vu when you heard that Lucic had said “do(n’t) you know who I am?” Remember a few years ago… late night out with girlfriend… threw shoes and purse at her, as she refused to get in cab or something… cops arrived on scene and were treated to “do you know who I am?” He seems pretty comfortable saying that, is all.

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  9. Jake
    December 16, 2013

    1. Scumbag goes to scumbag bar
    2. Gets punched by other scumbag
    3. Whines about how a whole city is mean to him

    My God, they’ even act like Bruins off the ice

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    • Jim
      December 16, 2013

      To be fair they also went to his church and spray painted profanity on it. Also threatened his family…

      His final straw may be kind of silly… But you can get where he is coming from.

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      • GeezMoney
        December 16, 2013

        Who is this grandiose “they”? To me, it’s just drunk dudes being drunk dudes. If he was helping a lady cross the road, and got sucker punched while doing it, I’d be all broken up about it. But this is a drunk dude fighting with another drunk dude on Granville St. aka Jerk central. Didn’t Chad Kroeger get slapped around on that street, too? Maybe there is a theme here…

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      • dontpassjustshoot
        December 18, 2013

        It’s interesting that Lucic never mentions the local graffiti scrubbing company that offered to clean it for free. Vancouverites suck! (As long as you only mention the bad deeds.)

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    • nateb123
      December 16, 2013

      Spot on. I get that Lucic’s scene probably isn’t the Pacific Rim but there are at least a hundred other restaurants, bars, clubs and other venues he could have gone to “blow off steam”. Choosing a skeezy place then acting the victim when that skeeziness rears its ugly head is ridiculous.

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      • dontpassjustshoot
        December 16, 2013

        Well, he definitely (may have been) a victim to a random jerk – but really, what kind of weird Stepford Wives city would Vancouver be if we didn’t have any drunk, aggressive scumbags? I’m sure we would never have the respect of either Boston or Don Cherry then. You can see why he was cross and out of temper, but that was an extreme reaction if people around him were sticking up for him too.

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  10. peanutflower
    December 16, 2013

    Because clearly I have nothing better to do that try and refute any sort of sympathy that thug Lucic might inspire, in September 2011, and I quote: Stanley Cup hero Milan Lucic was questioned by police early yesterday after he and his girlfriend got into an altercation in the North End. According to a police report of the incident, the Bruins [team stats] left winger was “highly intoxicated and hostile” after he and his galpal argued outside aStarbucks on Commercial Street shortly before 1:30 a.m. Witnesses told police the 6-foot-4, 220-pound hockey player was yelling at his girlfriend, who was on the ground, and at one point threw her shoes and purse at her. However, the woman told police she was not physically assaulted and “was adamant about not being harmed,” the report states. Police “did not observe any visible injuries,” the report says, and Lucic was not charged. Lucic’s marketing rep, Cleon Daskalakis, president of Celebrity Marketing, spoke to the hockey star yesterday after he was contacted by the Herald and said Lucic told him, “ ‘Yeah, we created some noise,’ ” but that it was “a complete misunderstanding” and “everything’s great with us.” “There’s times in a relationship when things get a little louder than they should and one thing leads to another,” Daskalakis said, “but I know there’s no way Milan would raise a hand to her. He loves her. The situation sounds a lot worse than it was.” Daskalakis said Lucic has been under “a lot of pressure” since the B’s won the Stanley Cup, but stressed, “He’s a great guy.” “He’s one of the nicest people you could possibly ever meet,” Daskalakis said. “You’d want him dating your daughter. He’s held to a higher standard. I honestly believe he’s upholding that standard.” As the officer continued to question Lucic, he “slammed his cell phone to the ground and yelled ‘Do you know who I am?’ ” the police report states.

    The old “do you know who I am” thing again. I rest my case. I have no sympathy for him. He should be castigated for being a douche, not given any sympathetic treatment in the media. And that was just one of six incidents I found that basically say the same thing. So yah. I have to really go back to work now.

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    • dontpassjustshoot
      December 16, 2013

      Sorry, man – I should have scrolled down further. For the record, this peanut guy posted this before I popped it into some replies above. Great minds.

      Why would Milan “raise a hand to her” when her shoes were so close to hand? :P

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  11. Matty in Seattle
    December 16, 2013

    Cue up the classless blame the victim responses. We can wash them down with a glass of Bruins hatred wine fermented from the finest sour grapes. Hey, let’s all swill some Labatts blue and spray paint a church. Why do Canadians struggle with the meaning of the word “ironic” anyway?

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    • Noodle
      December 16, 2013

      Since this bar incident is going to be divisive for a lot of people (“we don’t know the whole story” etc) can we at least agree that having your grandparents harassed and your church vandalized is not cool? Those 2 cases have nothing to do with Lucic’s personal behavior, as others have alluded to.

      If I was Lucic I would be really upset about those 2 incidents.

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      • Pavo
        December 16, 2013

        Noodle,

        Were Lucic’s grandparents harassed because they were his grandparents, or because they were in Bruins jerseys?

        Heck, does throwing popcorn at someone (as childish and ill-mannered as it may be), qualify as harassment serious enough to tar a whole city?

        Are opposing fans never ever harassed in Boston, or any other NHL city?

        Yes, his church got grafittied but why aren’t you (and Milan) also giving props to the people who volunteered their time to clean it up?

        Because it doesn’t fit your narrative of Vancouver being a classless city?

        As for Lucic, a little more maturity and reflection should make him realise that in the grand scheme of things, these are relatively minor incidents and that he shouldn’t let his feelings be bruised so easily.

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        • Noodle
          December 17, 2013

          “Because it doesn’t fit your narrative of Vancouver being a classless city?”

          Dude, when did I ever say Vancouver is classless? I LIVE here (and have lived here all my life). I know it’s an awesome city and the people here are great. And I know that the people who harassed Lucic are a very small minority. I was defending Vancouver in a comment above.

          I’m just empathizing with Lucic’s unhappiness, that’s all.

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          • Pavo
            December 17, 2013

            Noodle – sorry, my misunderstanding :) !

            That said, still have zero sympathy, or empathy, for Lucic.

            Dude won the Stanley Cup. Great for him and his family. Normally, would be great for a good chunk of hockey fans in his hometown too.

            However, as fate would dictate, Milan won his ring by beating the team from his hometown, and whilst doing so he, and certain members of his family, played a significant role in trash talking said hometown (my grand-parents were disrespected; we don’t feel safe in this city because we were burgled years ago … Cory’s woman disrespected me … blah, blah, blah).

            So is Vancouver and BC going to give him the accolades that they heaped on other BC boys who won the Cup?

            Very unlikely. Too bad! So sad! But such is life.

            To Milan and his hyper-sensitive entourage – all I can say is, grow up for goodness’ sake. Be mature enough to realise that in every sports crazed city/state/country in the world, the success of the local team will matter far, far more to the natives than the success of a hometown boy playing for a rival.

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    • smj
      December 17, 2013

      Classless blame the victim responses? Most of the people commenting on it have denounced the spray painting as indefensible and others have simply suggested that he might not be a victim in this particular instance (“I will kill you” is I believe what he says in the video to his “attacker”) How about unoriginal generalizing and cliche using, is that your definition of “classy” commentary? Find a Vancouverite whose favorite beer is Blue. Also, do you enjoy the Seahawks fans? A lot of them are from Vancouver.

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    • Bridget
      December 17, 2013

      Why do they struggle with the meaning of ironic?

      I blame Alanis Morissette, she clearly doesn’t know the meaning either.

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      • dontpassjustshoot
        December 18, 2013

        It is NOTHING LIKE rain on your wedding day! Look it up, Alanis!

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  12. Noodle
    December 16, 2013

    “Lucic is within reason to be as frustrated with Vancouver as he is”

    I totally agree. He has been treated poorly by some pathetic people. I hate how some jerks have treated him and there’s no excuse for their behavior. I also get that he has reached a point where he feels like he’s done with this city – I might feel the same way if I was him.

    My issue is that his choice of words paint the city of Vancouver as a whole as a terrible place. That’s what bothers me. Those jerks are the small minority, and every city has them. We’re good people, I swear!

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    • Noodle
      December 16, 2013

      Oh god, the dreaded double comment post. I’m sorry everyone.

      /hangs head in shame

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  13. akidd
    December 16, 2013

    hey, no fair piling on, seattle. we’re pulling for the seahawks too. and we used to pull for the mariners…before they basemented-out for a decade. and when you get your nhl team…we’re not going to pull for them…at all.

    and labatts blue…they haven’t served that spirit here since 1989….

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  14. Pavo
    December 16, 2013

    A few things I have learnt over the last couple of years:

    • All the moronic sports fans on the planet reside in Vancouver.
    • Only Vancouver has ever had a riot.
    • Only Vancouver needs to be constantly apologizing for perceived transgressions.

    All of you wringing your hands in despair over Vancouver’s apparent status as a classless city – step back from the media rubbish and think for yourself. Get some perspective on the issue.

    You want to see what a world class riot looks like? Check out the last London and Paris performances.

    You want to see great examples of bad fan behaviour? Read up on Liverpool & Heysel Stadium. For something more mundane, check out Millwall and the reasons behind its fans’ famous ‘No one likes us, we don’t care’ chant. There’s a reason the problem is called football ‘hooliganism’ and it is a genuine security concern in many European countries.

    What Vancouver fans have to offer is laughably insipid in comparison.

    So what are the Lucic family’s complaints?:

    1 That some Canuck fans threw popcorn at Milan’s grandparents, who were dressed in Bruin jerseys – agree, not nice. But did the fans deliberately target them, know they were his grandparents? Were they the only fans ever to have food thrown at them in the history of the NHL? And was it really worse than having beer dumped on your head or being urinated on?

    2 That the family home got burgled and Milan’s Giants paraphernalia got stolen – what Mama Lucic failed to mention to the reporter was that the burglary occurred some 2 years before the SFC.

    3 That the family didn’t feel safe holding a public celebration of Milan’s day with the Cup – I’d say that Grouse Mtn is a fairly public place.

    4 That Milan’s church was vandalized – I’ll give Milan that one. Not classy. But is this church the only public place that has ever been grafittied? Was it really the end of the world?

    As for David P’s comment that ‘Vancouver is one of the only first-world cities … where peoples’ idea of a good time is to get into a fight’, all I can say is – WOW! Just WOW! Try wandering into one of the rougher parts of London on a Friday night after 11pm, and see how you fare.

    There’s a whole world out there David, and you really should get to know it a little better.

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    • wkc
      December 16, 2013

      Agreed. What Milan Lucic’s family has been through is unfortunate, but let’s not get carried away, it’s not exactly terrorism and Justin Bieber probably puts up with worse harassment than that. (Yes! I was looking for an opportunity to use those two names in one sentence.) Celebrities attract positive and negative attention. Bad stuff happens in every big city. This isn’t Dog River.

      Maybe it has something to do with me being American, originally from New York, but I can’t really relate to Vancouverites who are “embarrassed” that the city is not composed entirely of saints. I’ve lived in downtown Vancouver for 4 years now and love it here, but where I come from, we don’t even acknowledge that the rest of the world exists let alone has any opinions about the city worth noting. Why should people who live within a city, and therefore know it best, fret about what people outside of that city think about it based on tabloid snapshots and provincial stereotypes?

      Aside from spending over 20 years in New York, I’ve also lived in Oakland, Hong Kong, and Los Angeles. Vancouver is easily the safest, most peaceful among them. I moved my 73-year-old mother here and she feels comfortable walking around downtown alone at night, and I can assure you she’s no bar brawler.

      In 1990 in New York, there were more than 2,200 murders. In 2013, the NYPD is practically giddy with self-satisfaction that there have been fewer than 400 murders. In Vancouver in 2013, there have been 4 murders. If this is the scariest, nastiest, meanest place you’ve ever known, I don’t know what to tell ya.

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      • Pavo
        December 16, 2013

        wkc – can’t give you enough thumbs up.

        As someone who moved to Vancouver from London, this whole need for self-flagellation every time a tiny portion of the local population does something dumb, completely baffles me.

        To Vancouverites – all cities have their quota of morons, some of whom perpetrate far worse acts than harassing a Milan Lucic. Why do other cities get a pass and you don’t?

        And I am afraid to say that when I first saw TV footage of the Stanley Cup riot all I could think to myself was – this would qualify as a little local disturbance in many parts of the world.
        Contrast it with the London riots later that year, which took a week to put down. But I doubt you’ll meet any Londoners who profess to be embarrassed by those events – they would regard it as just part of life in a large city.

        I have found Vancouver to be a very safe city and its sports fans to be most harmless.

        Vancouverites have nothing to apologise for.

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        • dontpassjustshoot
          December 16, 2013

          THANK YOU! Same on all counts. I mean, who in England hasn’t seen riot police fan out on a nice Sunday afternoon through a nice little city like Norwich because the football match involved long-standing rivals? *Just in case.*

          It always bugs me that we all laugh along with the riot jokes and make our own (torching Vancouver – can’t take the city out of the man – quite good!), but everyone in the world has forgotten the droves of citizens who turned out to volunteer at garbage picking to clean up our city.

          Just like Lucic focuses on the jerk who assaulted him (fiar enough) without a word for the people who stuck up for him (not cool).

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  15. Rich
    December 16, 2013

    Getting sick and tired of Canadian hockey fans. Media tries to portray Canadians as these peaceful friendly people/fans but they continually prove to be otherwise. Classless booing of the US national anthem, childlike waving of the Canadian flag at NHL games and in Vancouver a bunch of toothless hooligans harassing Lucic who should be a home town hero. An NHL game is not an Olympic event and the silly Pom Pom waving of your flag and hysterical antics are beginning to resemble a Berlin rally circa 1940. Grow up, it’s just a hockey game

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    • Chris the Curmudgeon
      December 16, 2013

      Know how many times I’ve heard U-S-A chanted by an American crowd at a pro hockey game where a Canadian team is participating? And when was the last time you heard the American anthem booed?

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    • ikillchicken
      December 16, 2013

      Well there we have it. Canada = Nazi Germany. Thanks though. Whenever a single individual does something stupid a bunch of people start acting like that city is the ONLY city that has idiots. But you’ve demonstrated quite efficiently that this is untrue.

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    • Lemming
      December 16, 2013

      Yes, thank god we have Americans, who are known for not waving the American flag around everything they do.

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    • Bridget
      December 17, 2013

      I grew up in Vancouver but have lived in California for the past 10 years, meaning I have gone to my fair share of Canuck games in LA and Anaheim. I’ve also gone to many Duck game’s where they play a Canadian team. I have NEVER heard booing during the American Anthem, yet I HAVE heard USA chants like no other. That is something I’ve never understood – why chant USA when a good number of your team is Canadian! All of the Canadian’s I’ve met who are visiting California (not just for hockey reasons, Disneyland brings a lot) they are the NICEST! Don’t generalize a whole country from your experiences.

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  16. Rich
    December 16, 2013

    No I don’t know how many times you’ve heard it but I would guess it was after a national tradegy when it is appropriate. We hear the US anthem booed a lot here in Boston by the Montreal fans. Living on Cape Cod we deal with Canadian tourists all the time. They are generally considered the rudest and cheapest of all the visitors. If you hate the US so much then stay in Canada.

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    • peanutflower
      December 16, 2013

      Well, Habs fans are not Canadians, right? They are Canadiens. There’s a difference. Not sure what the “national tradegy” thing means, but you’re a way far aways from home finding this blog, aren’t you? You had to troll all the way from Cape Cod to find a Canucks blog? Lucky for you the writers of this particular post think Lucic deserves respect. I don’t think he does. I think he’s a thug. But that’s just me. Don’t be making generalizing statements here, bud. Canada as a country and probably Vancouver as a city don’t go around booing the US national anthem. Nope. We like the cheap milk too much to do that.

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    • Chris the Curmudgeon
      December 17, 2013

      A. You’re obviously comparing apples and oranges. B, I live in the USA. Stop generalizing so much, it makes you look silly. Thankfully, Sharks fans (the NHL fanbase I live among), while even more insecure and neurotic than Canucks fans, don’t confuse patriotism and NHL fandom and are pretty sparing in their U-S-A chants. Watching Canucks games from elsewhere in the US, Sharks fans seem to be in a minority about that.

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  17. JustSayin'
    December 16, 2013

    To generalize and blame an entire city of 2.5 million for the actions of a few (likely drunken) idiots is ridiculous. Who has a conspiracy issues now?

    Some dumb (probably kids) threw popcorn (he said so himself that’s what it was) at his grandparents. I’m quite sure they weren’t wearing shirts saying “we’re Lucic’s grandparents” and yes, poor behavior, but not nearly as bad as how Vancouver fans were treated in Boston and Chicago. The vandalism to his family’s church was awful, and Vancouverites were outraged. No one thought it was OK. Did he mention the group of kids from a local school who went to clean the church up because they thought it was wrong? No. Of course he didn’t mention that.

    The Roxy is known as being a sleazy bar and does not have a good reputation. Why go there after the first return to Vancouver when your team mate taunted the team and fans about losing the cup? It doesn’t surprise me this happened there. If you go looking for trouble, you’ll find it and he did. It was a bad choice on his part, but rather than admitting that he jumped to the conspiracy theory that everyone’s out to get him, rather than, I made a bad choice and should have gone some where else. And yes, Lucic, we ALL know who you are, but can confidently say, we’re not all out to get you.

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  18. Fitz
    December 16, 2013

    Can someone please just tell him who he is, no need to make a movie out of it, pretty sure Matt Damon would be out on “The Lucic Identity”

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  19. will
    December 16, 2013

    There are a number excellent hotel restaurants with bars in downtown Vancouver. Fine food, nice atmosphere (where you can hear your friends speak) plenty to drink, attractive females and a noticeable lack of heckling meatheads. Maybe more expensive than the average person looking to have some drinks with buddies is looking for, but sometimes as a recognizable (and well paid) professional athlete you have to make ‘sacrifices’.

    Milan has a reason to be upset with the actions of a FEW fans in this city, but as many other people have stated, for him to throw every person in Vancouver in the same pile as these morons is a bit much. Make better decisions about where you go to get lit up.

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    • momo
      December 16, 2013

      not even a few….ONE!!! Let’s get over it.

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  20. Sean
    December 16, 2013

    Lucic is a jerk. He helped steal the Cup away from the Canucks. You’re going to get the gears for doing that when you drink on a Saturday night in the worst part of Vancouver. Sorry, Lucic. Par for the course.

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  21. Naturalmystic
    December 16, 2013

    Dear Penthouse Forum, I never thought I would be writing to tell you about something that happened to me last weekend…..

    Milan

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  22. Sox/Canucks fan
    December 16, 2013

    “I think there’s an unhealthy place that people take sports to…it’s worse now than it’s ever been…and the fact that Vancouver is a small city makes it worse.” -Ray Ferraro

    I think he’s describing the Comments section of blogs, and church defacers.

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  23. Lemming
    December 16, 2013

    As with everything in hockey, Lucic in real life is likely blameless and never the one to start any crap, especially not drunk at 4AM after losing a game 6-2. After all, you can’t spell “Lucic” without “self-control”…wait a second…
    I’m not saying it’s his fault, but I have little sympathy for him, considering any number of factors such as his reputation as a cheapshotter (Miller anyone?), the past recordings in the media of his alcohol-fuelled rages around Vancouver in the wee hours of the morning, and the fact that blaming the whole city for something a drunken jerk outside a skuzzy night club did is the epitome of pompous egotism.
    I don’t condone vandalism or harassing his grandparents (seriously, who harasses an old couple at a hockey game? You can’t at least find someone younger to harass, not that I even necessarily condone that), but for all I know, Lucic had it coming, and even if he didn’t, shouldn’t be surprised that a drunken Canucks fan at 4AM outside a skuzzy night club doesn’t have great decision making skills.

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  24. Alternate Headline
    December 17, 2013

    Milan Lucic, Born and Raised in Vancouver, Shocked and Dismayed to Discover Unpleasant People on Granville Street After 11 PM on a Weekend

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  25. Ratatat
    December 17, 2013

    OK, just for starters, Mr. Lucic is, what 25 ?

    No offence at all to anyone that age, but seriously, no matter how famous, or how much money he has made, or how successful he’s been (and all three are true), he is acting like he is 25. He’s all testerone and tough guy. Grow up.

    How is he acting his age?
    First by GOING into THAT bar, on THAT night until THAT time.

    Second, by accepting ZERO blame for any of the above, or simply having the class or the wisdom, or intelligence (don’t know, which, don’t know him), to just SHUT UP, walk away, and then NOT follow it up on T.V. with a petulant immature response. p.s. is the fact that there is a video camera EVERYWHERE like new information?

    Finally: who CARES? Really, who cares? Why is this a story? Ugh.

    My suggestion to Mr. Lucic if I’m his agent?
    Dude, stop making a public spectacle of yourself (before and after) and getting all imperious. Just learn to walk away. My advice? Learn from guys like Steve Yzerman how to behave like a leader and with the demeanour of an ADULT. Oh, that’s right, Steve Yzerman, that guy who just decided NOT to select this talented but hard to manage “star” for his country’s Olympic National team.

    Just saying.
    (oh, and sorry for the caps !! )

    And… I agree with Peanutflower

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  26. PD
    December 17, 2013

    This is a much more amusing ‘Do you know who I am?’, not to mention a better way to handle a drunken trouble-maker:

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  27. shoes
    December 17, 2013

    What is being ignored by the media in an effort to downplay the incident and not raise a ruckus, is the fact that Milan Lucic was out with 8 friends and the cops were right there. No arrest and not one of his “friends and team mates” has spoken up for him publicly. Tell you something?

    He has used this “do you know who I am” thing before to know he is a class 1 douche when drinking. this incident happened at 4 AM in a poutine house of all places. But not just any Poutine house, but one where Milan went steady (close to Roxy) when he was a Giant and offseason. He has a poutine named after him and I smell cue-jumping here. Some other drunken dude took exception and now Milans friends and the cops are just hoping everybody shuts up.

    This incident as it stands is only 1/2 reported and based on that, in no way reflects on Vancouver as a whole. And anyone that is scared of Vancouver at night really needs to get out and see the world.

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  28. shoes
    December 17, 2013

    Just watched the video again with an open mind. Lucic should have watched it himself and then came back with ” I think Vancouver is pretty classy and I am lucky I did not get my arse kicked after acting like that while drunk” Thank you Vancouver.

    Because really, why would any other drunk be expected to listen to that little speech. Sober people might chuckle, but drunks don’t like to be threatened especially when they are rockin’ the skinhead look.

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  29. wkc
    December 17, 2013

    One last comment and I’m out, really. Here’s what Lucic said late in the radio interview: “I think I’ve been in downtown Vancouver maybe 50 or 60 times and I’ve never even come close to an altercation, but this one obviously ended up in one.”

    So he’s been out drinking downtown 50 or 60 times and never had any incidents, but the one time things get sloppy, he cries that the whole city is mean. Not the shiniest penny in the jar, is he. To me, that sounds like a pretty peaceful ratio of drunken outings without incident! What a mellow town.

    Here’s what Canucks assistant general manager Laurence Gilman said to The Province: “In this day and age everyone has a cellphone and every cellphone has a camera. You have to know you are under scrutiny everywhere you go. Our players live and work in a very demanding market. Their profile and visibility is extremely high wherever they go. But they get educated very quickly from the veteran guys.”

    Here’s Ryan Kesler: “We were told not to comment on it. I’d love to, but I can’t.”

    In contrast, that’s called public maturity and restraint, and taking ownership of the responsibilities that come part and parcel with the highly privileged lives of pro athletes and other public figures.

    Hockey players can probably slip under the radar a bit more easily in the US, but this is Canada and Lucic is Canadian. In the US, I’m pretty sure LeBron James doesn’t go out drinking in the rowdiest part of Cleveland when the Heat visit the Cavs. He would probably get shot; not a light altercation with some shouting and swearing; shot. What happened to Lucic says nothing about Vancouver, but says something about Lucic’s level of street smarts, his sloppy thinking about an entire city, and his refusal to assume responsibility for a life he has chosen and enjoys.

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    • Chris the Curmudgeon
      December 17, 2013

      Sounds about right. You’d think with the money this guy makes, he could get dressed up nicely and frequent some far nicer establishments. Obviously money can’t buy class, maybe he should start hanging out with Jarome a little bit for some lessons.

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  30. steveB
    December 17, 2013

    http://i.imgur.com/hftAC3n.jpg

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