Shanahan and the Shana-vengers suspend Duncan Keith for five Shana-games

One wonders if the Department of Player Safety realizes that Duncan Keith’s decision to waive his right to an in-person hearing did not also negate their right to suspend him for more than 5 games. They know that, right?

You’ll forgive me if I don’t have the utmost confidence in the Shanavengers. When a blatant elbow to the face receives only a middling suspension, it’s clear that the NHL’s crusade to crack down on headshots deserves to be taking as seriously as, well, the Crusades.

After a two-day deliberation, Duncan Keith has been suspended for 5 Shana-games. (The NHL’s equivalent of Disney Dollars. They’re like NHL regular-season games, but effectively worthless.) Let’s let Shanahan take us through the decision:

I like the way Shanahan stresses that a look at Keith’s “SUPPLEMENTAL DISCIPLINE RECORD” includes no suspensions. Normally, he uses the phrase “not a repeat offender,” somewhere in these videos, but detractors would have picked that phrase apart because Keith is a repeat offender, even if his record doesn’t reflect that. Previous hits to Matt Cooke and Ruslan Salei would have drawn suspensions under this regime. But, since the statue of limitations has long since run out on those hits, they’re neither here nor there, a point Shanahan made with some deliberate word selection. Effectively, he was saying, According to this sheet of past offences, which is the only thing we look at, Internet, Keith is a relatively clean player.

Anyway. I’m a bit shocked that this video is so simple. There’s nothing on Daniel Sedin’s hit prior to the incident. There’s nothing on the allegations that Keith was following through on a threat?

Well, almost nothing. Shanahan makes sure to mention that this thread was at least investigated:

“Regardless of Keith’s assertion that the intent on this play was to impede Sedin’s progress, as opposed to a retaliation for an earlier hit, Keith’s hit was still dangerous, reckless and caused injury.”

But, a passing mention aside, it’s clear that the Department chose to ignore all the stuff surrounding the elbow, and I would have liked for them to explain why.

Not that it’s too difficult to figure out. Like I said yesterday, Daniel Sedin’s hit in the corner has been drastically overblown, mainly by Chicagoans looking to justify Keith’s unjustifiable actions, and by Vancouverites looking to prove they aren’t homers. I’ll take Shanahan’s silence as a sign that he agrees, but I would have liked some closure on the issue.

Additionally, there’s simply no way you can take Henrik Sedin’s allegations of a threat at face value unless it’s been backed up by an unbiased third party. Again, the silence speaks, but speaking tends to speak better.

Shanahan’s preseason promise for more transparency is completely void if he doesn’t show his work.

(On the bright side, he took the time to explain elbowing, so there’s that.)

In short, intent, history and politics thrown out, what we have here is a hit viewed in a vacuum. In that sense, the suspension is relatively consistent with suspensions that have come before it.

Of course, I remain convinced that Keith’s hit deserves a stiffer sentence because it was predatory, not instinctive, and I would hazard a guess that the Department feels the same way. But, since there’s simply no concrete evidence to that end, there’s nothing else that could be done without taking a very bold stance.

And, considering a dirty, dangerous, reckless elbow merits only a five-game suspension, it’s clear that bold stances aren’t something they’re particularly good at.

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72 comments

  1. Daniel W.
    March 23, 2012

    unfortunately, you seem to be spot on (again)!

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  2. Daniel W.
    March 23, 2012

    though I thought the guys at backhand shelf made a good point, when they guessed 7, so the NHL could call it ‘the rest of the regular season’ instead of 7 games, sounds harsher!
    (darn it, no editing previous comments here…)

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  3. natevk
    March 23, 2012

    “Silence speaks, but speaking tends to speak better”
    - quips like these are what keep me coming back to this site day after day! Just brilliant

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  4. Dave
    March 23, 2012

    What doesn’t make sense to me is the idea that Sedin’s hit on Keith is any sort of justification for Keith that would reduce his suspension. The opposite is true.

    If Keith’s hit is retaliation for Daniel’s hit, then rather than a careless split-second reaction, this is a pre-meditated offense. If it’s the former, then 5 games is fine with me, but in the latter, then there’s no way he should be playing until 2012-2013. It would be retaliatory headhunting, plain and simple.

    So Chicagoans should be minimizing Daniel’s hit, arguing there’s no way Keith was angry about it, leading him to elbow Daniel, rather than the other way around.

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    • tom selleck's moustache
      March 23, 2012

      “So Chicagoans should be minimizing Daniel’s hit, arguing there’s no way Keith was angry about it, leading him to elbow Daniel, rather than the other way around.”

      “Should be” but, based on the comments made in other threads, logic, comprehension and forethought are not character traits flowing in abundance with some Chicagoans.

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  5. Brandon
    March 23, 2012

    I like how there was an article in the Chicago Tribune titled “Keith Acts like a Canuck”, when the canucks have yet to recieve any supplemental discipline this year, while the blackhawks have had 3 players now suspended. This Canuck hate is amazing.

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    • FrancoL
      March 23, 2012

      The Canucks are a brand that sells papers even outside of Vamcouver! Financial royalties should be attached somehow. #embracethehate

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    • Superreggie
      March 23, 2012

      Someone out there needs to explain the Canucks hate to me. I just don’t get it.

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      • hockeyispretty
        March 23, 2012

        There are three reasons to hate a team:
        1) they keep badly injuring players on other teams, so we all have less awesomeness to watch.
        2) they keep beating your chosen team at hockey.
        3) the media claims “everyone hates them! the most hated team! all the cool kids hate them!”

        We tick the last two of those boxes. I don’t really mind that we tick the last two as long as we never tick the first; I’ll probably pick another team to cheer for if we do.

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    • Harris
      March 24, 2012

      Exactly, the Canucks are 1 of the dirtiest teams in the league and they get away with whatever they want…That’s why teams respond the way they do and go after Canuck players…Maybe we should be blaming the referees for not controlling games the Canucks play or maybe Brendan Shannahan needs to stop showing bias towards the Canucks and give them a suspension…Regardless of Keith deserving the suspension, so did Daniel Sedin…And for you Canuck fans who keep saying Daniel’s hit was directed at Keith’s body…DID YOU WATCH THE HIT ABOVE FROM THIS ARTICLE?…ARE YOU BLIND?…HE HIT KEITH IN THE HEAD…DOESN’T MATTER WHAT HE HIT KEITH’S HEAD WITH, THAT’S AN AUTOMATIC SUSPENSION…WHERE IS DANIEL’S SUSPENSION?…THAT’S WHY THE CANUCKS DON’T HAVE SUSPENSIONS…THE GUY YOU CANUCKS FANS SHOULD LOVE IS BRENDAN SHANNAHAN CAUSE HE ALLOWS YOUR TEAM FREE REIGN…CANUCKS FANS ARE SO LOST…MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD ERECT ANOTHER STATUE OF A FAN WAVING A WHITE TOWEL THIS TIME…WORST STATUE IN THE HIST0RY OF SPORTS

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      • nikolai avenger
        March 24, 2012

        Alright son, don’t get your titties in a twist. The CAPS LOCK button is on the left hand side. of your keyboard. Thanks.

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        • hockeyispretty
          March 24, 2012

          LOL – sometimes they say “Canucks are the most penalized team in the league! Obviously they play the dirtiest!” and sometimes it’s “they get away with whatever they want! Obviously they’re the dirtiest!” Glad we don’t feed the trolls on this website. Shakespeare of Caps Lock fame up there will never respond to reason.

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      • Daniel Wagner
        March 24, 2012

        Hey, whaddaya know? You’re wrong: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=123678.

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        • Brent
          March 24, 2012

          That was awesome!

          Actually a real eye opener on lots of hits, even Rome’s in the SCF. Why doesn’t they show this on coaches corner!

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          • stathead
            March 24, 2012

            Because apparently it’s more important to ramble for five minutes about someone who plays in the minors who should play in the majors and if there’s one thing you can’t coach someone to have, it’s magic hands.

            This is the headline story, coming into the last few weeks of the season with the race for playoff spots tightening.

            Secondary story: wasn’t there a bad hit on Sedin? Yeah, don’t get me wrong, there’s no excuse, but… he TOTALLY ASKED FOR IT. “If you go looking for trouble, you’ll find it!”

            (Ladies, we’d better remember that when we go walking out by ourselves in the streets. If we’ve dressed nicely and worn makeup… well, we’re just looking for trouble, and it’s not right to assault us, but we have only ourselves to blame if they do…) Why is it so OK to blame the victim in sports?

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            • obituary mambo
              March 28, 2012

              Sadly sports isn’t the only sphere in which victims get blamed. I’m not sure if the above example was meant to be facetious or not, but it is an eerily accurate description of what a lot of American police officers, law makers and men in general seem to believe (actually, I believe it’s a problem in Canada too, hence the Slut Walk). And then there’s the case of Trayvon Martin, who was clearly asking to be murdered, just ask Geraldo Rivera. I mean, come on: he was wearing a hoodie!

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      • cableguymike
        March 24, 2012

        He’s right, you know. You guys remember when Kevin “Brick” Bieksa killed that guy with a trident? He laid low for a few days and totally got away with it.

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        • Nee
          March 24, 2012

          Anchorman reference for the win!

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  6. zach
    March 23, 2012

    I thought it was kind of weird that the department asked Keith to waive his right to an in person hearing – essentially giving him the choice as to whether he wanted 5 games, or more than 5 games. Any disciplinary committee should not give the offender the choice – ie. he should not have the right to choose whether he gets an in person hearing or not – he should just be told, this is the way it is, live with it. Goes for any player on any team. Not just Keith, for all the trolling Hawks fans who will no doubt read this article and this comment…

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    • Daniel W.
      March 23, 2012

      ummm, you did read the first paragraph here, right?! I believe Keith’s waiving of an in person hearing was just so they could avoid the travel an in person hearing would’ve involved…

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      • hockeyispretty
        March 23, 2012

        It’s a bit vague, but I have the impression that they can ask for a) a phone meeting (up to 5 game suspension) or b) an in-person meeting (can give more than 5-game suspension). But if you don’t actually want to go to an in-person meeting, you can waive your right to an in-person meeting and agree to a possible more-than-five suspension over the phone. I think. Could be wrong.

        So the fact that they jumped through those hoops for a possible more-than-five suspension, and then ended up with five, could tell us that this was a political issue, with some people wanting a strong message sent, but that Keith had at least one strong internal champion who didn’t want him severely penalized. Just a nice pre-playoff break.

        The political aspect is clear in this shifty sidestepping (“no previous suspension” – because we can’t say he’s not a repeat offender – and we also can’t say he received no previous disciplinary action, as he has indeed been fined) compared to the open wording and contextual fact-driven video explanations that Shanny gave previously.

        My guess, from his tone in the Marchand video compared to this one, is that he is serious and passionate about cleaning up player safety, and he has to work *with* a lot of old-guard guys with different views and a lot of clout within the NHL. Things have tapered off in player safety since that Marchand suspension, haven’t they?

        There’s probably a behind-closed-doors story there. The NHL seems to be a behind-closed-doors sort of place: just look at the Colin Campbell emails regarding the dismissal of that referee for making calls he didn’t like. That speaks to the whole internal culture of the league. As I wrote before, hockey is pretty, but the NHL isn’t very pretty at all.

        So, props to Shanny for doing what he can within what he’s got to work with, and here’s hoping he gets better leverage in the future to protect all players from head injury, Canuck and Hawk alike.

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        • hockeyispretty
          March 23, 2012

          Wow, that was longer than it felt. Sorry, guys. Will use bullet points next time. Or will just make it shorter, actually. :)

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          • The Bookie
            March 23, 2012

            No need to apologize. One of the smartest comments I’ve ever read here on PITB.

            The changing of an old=- to a new-guard is never an instantaneous thing, in any system. I like the way Shanahan has gone and think the work he’s done so far deserves some respect and patience.

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            • Mamanova
              March 24, 2012

              Agree to a point.

              Unfortunately the Canucks and their fans are now forced to wait with respect & patience for Daniel’s recovery & return – hopefully this season, but who knows.

              All season long we have seen 3 to 5 games for head shots but it’s not working. The head shots just keep coming. At some point the league is going to have to take a much tougher stance and preferably before a player receives a fatal blow to the head.

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        • steven beausoleil
          March 24, 2012

          Im having flashbacks of the hit to the head that knocked M Naslund out of the lineup years ago. The canucks are near the top of the west and ready to compete for the cup and their best player is deliberately injured by an opposing players reckless and disrespectful actions. Alas, the NHL drops the ball and gives the Bully a little slap on the wrist and blows a chance to keep this violent non sense out of the game!!!!

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        • shoes
          March 24, 2012

          hockeyispretty: those are well spoken points and I gave you a thumbs up, however I disagree with Shanahan doing a good job with what he has to work with. I have no doubt that what you say is true and Bill Daly and Colon Campbell wrote his presser yesterday, BUT Shanahan was a player and not long ago…..he played for Detroit. Detroit is an organization reeking of class, because of players along the skill set and temperament of the Sedins. Shanahan basically sent the message to the Canucks and in particular the Sedin Twins …..THAT THEY DO NOT COUNT for much in this NHL. The rush job and the clever wording they cannot force on him, unless he is being held in white slavery. He was and still should be a man…and men and women sometimes have to take a stand and do what is RIGHT, no matter the boss or the salary. You are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and work through this, once Bettman and his Colon retire, not me. The Sedins will be grandpas before that happens.

          Something that I have been thinking about…..I don’t think this ever going to get fixed until the players want it fixed and the NHLPA steps in.

          the only other comment I could make is we have discovered that Chicago fans are almost hockey illerate and mostly ignorant of the rules as well as mainly acting like uneducated doofus’s.

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      • zach
        March 23, 2012

        no I didn’t read the article at all. I just decided to post down here for fun. But I’ll admit that I understand the league’s choice a little more now… but again they should have just started with a in person hearing as opposed to telling everyone it was an over the phone. It caused unnecessary confusion and it appeared as though Keith was being given the choice as to what he wanted…

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  7. Nee
    March 23, 2012

    GET WELL SOON DANIEL!

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  8. Smokey
    March 23, 2012

    Why, if this is the worst punishment the league can hand down, would any player choose not to knock the other team’s best player out? Let’s say the Canucks and Hawks meet in the playoffs, why would Alberts not knock Toews out with an elbow away from the puck? There’s no disincentive whatsoever, no deterrent. So he gets five games, we have lots of defencemen, they only have one Toews. That’s the message the NHL just sent and believe me, every player in the league heard it. If our guys knew that Keith would only get five games, they would definitely not have stopped hunting him after the end of the second. This ruling is a disgrace and sets a very dangerous precedent re: intentional hits meant to injure star players. Apparently “aw shucks, guys, I dinna mean to” is all it takes to get away with intent to injure in the NHL.

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    • Superreggie
      March 23, 2012

      It’s pretty clear that the best strategy is to intentionally Brain injure the star from the other team. Me, I wish I could just watch some good players play hockey…

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    • Harris
      March 24, 2012

      Curious if you Canuck fans forget all the violent hits your players have put on people?…And I know what your response will be – all those hits were legal…No, they weren’t…Just because you lead with your shoulder, doesn’t mean it is legal…ANY SHOT TO THE HEAD IS ILLEGAL…FOR YOU CANUCK FANS WHO HAVE TROUBLE READING, I WILL REPEAT…AND HEAD SHOT IS ILLEGAL…Rome’s hit on Horton was illegal…Torres hit on Seabrook was illegal…And Daniel’s hit 2 nights ago on Keith was illegal…DOESN’T MATTER HOW THEY HIT THE OTHER PLAYER, THEY DELIVERED A HEAD SHOT…100 PERCENT ILLEGAL…THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH CANUCKS AND THEIR FANS…EVERY HIT THEY MAKE IS LEGAL, EVERY HIT EVERY OTHER TEAM MAKES ON THEM IS ILLEGAL AND TRYING TO HURT THEM…AND BTW…NO ONE LIKES YOU BECAUSE CANUCKS AND THEIR FANS THINK THEY DO NO WRONG…CANUCKS ACT SO INNOCENT…IT’S ANNOYING AND TEAMS LIKE THIS NEVER WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS…GO FIGURE, THE BLACKHAWKS WON 2 YEARS AGO…WHEN HAVE THE CANUCKS WON?…KARMA BABY!!!

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  9. hockeyispretty
    March 23, 2012

    To anyone who thinks “Canucks homers” are only on Sedin’s side because he’s a Canuck and Keith is a Blackhawk, remember: up until a few days ago, we loved Keith dearly for being a Canadian Olympian who won gold for us in the most important event for us just two years ago right here in our city.

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  10. Zach Morris
    March 23, 2012

    Why aree the only options 5 and 3 games?

    When the only tool you have is a Shanahammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    • hockeyispretty
      March 23, 2012

      All through 2012, I think 5 has been the max he’s been able to push through. He started off with giving 7 or 8 for a shot like this, but I think other guys within the NHL have pushed back and want to keep status quo.

      Remember the video for the Marchand hit on Salo: he came as close as a politically astute man will ever come to calling Marchand a liar (well, it can only be called gross that he claimed he was cowering in terror because that dangerous guy Salo was bearing down on him), and actually used the word “predatory”, and even when he just barely managed to not say “you little weasel” out loud, still suspended him for only 5.

      When’s the last time we got to see Backstrom at play? He’s still out, and the guy who put him out with a vicious shot like this one got only 5 games suspension in Jan. The way I see it, that jerk stole his play (not Daniel’s, please not Daniel’s) from all the fans in the league: we pay for expensive tickets, jersey sales, wildly overpriced beer, etc., and the money goes towards hiring hockey players; we pay for Crosby, Hall, Toewes, Sedins, etc. to play; and jerks who concuss them steal from us the awesomeness we have all paid to watch.

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    • hockeyispretty
      March 23, 2012

      Jesse Rogers / ESPNChicago.com via Twitter (@ESPNChiHawks):
      “Pretty simple, if [Daniel Sedin is] back playing next game, hawks fans deserve to be mad…if he’s out longer than 5, canucks fans can be mad….”

      Dude… it’s not about Canucks vs Hawks when it comes to an assault like this!! (Sigh)

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      • elfisland
        March 23, 2012

        Please tell me that this jesse rogers guy is not a professional journalist?

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      • shoes
        March 24, 2012

        hockeyispretty….you are an ambitious person trying to educate the Chicago media on anything let alone this matter. they are more or less beyond education and thick as a brick is the expression that is commonly used when referring to them .

        hawks fans “deserve’
        canucks fans “can”

        What if Sedin is out for a year like Crosby or 3 like Savard or lifetime like many? Can Canucks fans still “be mad”……I guess so according the Eunach Rogers

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  11. Zach Morris
    March 23, 2012

    Why are the only options 5 and 3 games?

    When the only tool you have is a Shanahammer, everything looks like a nail.

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  12. gocanucks
    March 23, 2012

    Obviously the NHL are not serious about getting head shots out of the game (for some teams at least)… Shanahan is either a dupe, or a sell-out, and should be seen as a turncoat by the players for not doing enough to protect them… spineless

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  13. Canadianhawk
    March 23, 2012

    OMG guys get over it already…it wouldn’t matter if it was 5 games or the season+playoffs, the decision won’t please everybody…the league is full of questionable decisions around suspensions,,,like the no call on Torres on Seabrook…life goes on guys

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    • Metaxa
      March 23, 2012

      The League declared Torres’ hit a legal hit. Seabrook himself has been quoted as saying it was a good hit. It, actually, was a clean hit.

      I have seen the screen cap from point of impact and it clearly shows shoulder to crest.

      So…OMG, guy, get over it already…life goes on.

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    • shoes
      March 24, 2012

      CanadianHawk…you sound like a small man with OMG thing. You want us to get over a hit that happened 4 days ago and yet you are packing around a clean that happened a year ago.

      what about the time that Sneptsy lost and edge and ran into Tony O…..looked deliberate to me and Tony O almost fell….what about that one Canucks fans……?

      Please change your name….a whole nation is embarrassed by you.

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  14. Canadianhawk
    March 23, 2012

    OMG guys get over it already…it wouldn’t matter if it was 5 games or the season+playoffs, the decision won’t please everybody…the league is full of questionable decisions around suspensions and the susequent frustrations..case in point Raffi on Seabs

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    • stathead
      March 23, 2012

      I think it was a key decision coming into the playoffs as to the kind of treatment that players on all teams can expect. Will we see an emphasis on skilled play and player safety, or back to the SCF bash-em-up and if your players get a concussion or broken neck/ back, then you injure the guys on the other team right back because the refs will give it a minor if you’re lucky.

      I don’t really see how it’s a Chicago-vs-Vancouver issue. If one of our guys did a hit like that, I’d want a big suspension. On the guy we hit. (NOT. Being ironic there. But actually that’s not funny… because plenty of people actually feel that about this situation!)

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    • stathead
      March 23, 2012

      WAIT A MINUTE.
      - you are telling us to “OMG get over it already” about a decision handed down THIS AFTERNOON for a play done 48 h ago, and
      - you are still nursing a grievance over a hit by a former Canuck on Seabrook… must have been before May 2011 at the very latest!

      Double standard much? When Canucks fans do it, it’s called whining… go away, troll!

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      • shoes
        March 24, 2012

        Does anybody else remember the time that Harold Snepst lost an edge and slid 40 feet in from the blueline and almost contacted Tony O in goal……WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. signed “a very normal yet strangely simple hawks fan”

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  15. Shand
    March 23, 2012

    This comments section will be trolled.

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  16. akidd
    March 23, 2012

    ah more surplus evidence on the relative fairness of the nhl. it’s hard to believe i’m still watching this league. how much can one suspend disbelief? i hope the nhl and bettman in particular get hit with a massive player lawsuit one day soon.

    keith will be ready for the playoffs but i’m not sure i will be.

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  17. stathead
    March 23, 2012

    Being still newishly back to Canada, I’m embarrased for us with our tribal rage at people who live in other cities, especially Toronto and Vancouver. I thought it was a joke at first – but people actually mean it.

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/03/there-is-no-joy-in-vancouver-with-keiths-suspension.html

    This is a reasonable summary of the situation in a way – but it strikes me that plenty of people in Canada and even USA will actually be happy at the article & the outcome because it makes those Canuck-supporting jerks in Vancouver unhappy. That’s ridiculous.

    I’m not even sure how it can possibly be about “Chicago vs Vancouver”, when surely it’s about the safety of players on all teams, the integrity of hockey, and the number of parents who decide whether to enroll their kids in hockey or something where they’ll not be considered “soft” for getting a head injury after a hit to the head. Yet it is.

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  18. Locode
    March 23, 2012

    I think O’Shanrahan got confused when the phone was answered by “Keith Duncan”.

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  19. akidd
    March 23, 2012

    the only way i can make any sense at all out of this ruling is that because the nhl got to see daniel’s medical reports then he must not appear to be so seriously injured. so it’s a good thing.

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    • hockeyispretty
      March 24, 2012

      No one can tell a prognosis at this point. “Wait and see” will be all they heard.

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  20. Brent
    March 24, 2012

    Well, I don’t think we could expect more than 5 games given the history of suspensions, even though I agree it should have been more (I think the maximum has been 8 games this season to Sutton). Really, really wish he had discussed the Daniel hi,t even in a separate ruling so we won’t have t hear the haters go on about how Daniel should have been suspended. I would have been fine with 1 game just to shut them up. I am not even going to go to the CBC site, can’t afford to lose any more of of my soul.

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    • hockeyispretty
      March 24, 2012

      I also think it’s odd that when they review something and think it isn’t suspension worthy, they don’t show a video explaining why. Maybe it happens too often? I don’t even know how much is reviewed. I remember a bad hit to Burrows that looked like a head shot back in December in Toronto or Ottawa or Montreal I think, and I never was sure whether they reviewed it and found it OK, or just didn’t look at it.

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  21. sox/canucks fan
    March 24, 2012

    My sense of the ruling after listening to Shanahan’s tone is that IF Keith had a record of supplementary discipline THEN he would’ve gotten more like ten games. That it was a very dirty hit, in other words. That he doesn’t show Sedin’s earlier hit, and didn’t come up as a hit worthy of review suggests that Sedin’s hit was a legal, if borderline, hickey play.

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    • hockeyispretty
      March 24, 2012

      Thing is, he had a record of supplementary discipline – he’d been fined before. The fact that they talked around that is one of the red flags as to how political this is.

      Tops on my wish list is that they’d stop going on about “intent to injure”. By definition, you can only know that he had intent to injure if the media asked him about the hit and he said, “Yes, it all went according to plan. I hope that concussion is really bad and lasts for ages!”

      That’s not going to happen. You usually can’t even get those guys to say they’re mad at a teammate.

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      • sox/canucks fan
        March 24, 2012

        No doubt Keith was seeking retribution. And Keith has acted out, no doubt. Let’s hope Dank is good to go when it matters. I like that the team is angry feisty and getting ready.

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  22. shoes
    March 24, 2012

    Here is what bothers me from start to finish:

    1) the missed call on the ice with the puck being in the airspace. The refs had to be and thus were watching. Their only possible excuse is “when Duncan makes a chicken wing and jumps, his pants form a wedgie and this distracted us”

    2) Immediately the tweets came out from the sensible media Bob.M.etc…the suspension would be in no hurry because they usually wait for medical and the hawks don’t play until Sunday.

    3) Then came the NHL gong show where they DID indeed hurry and being the NHL completely and utterly screwed up their hurry….phone call they said with no explanation. Oh, oh somebody said not good optics….just in case he admits to attempting to hurt or maim or some video of the instant is captured. So Brendan calls Dunc and appologizes about the inconvenience and says ‘but you can waive the trip and let us take care of it’ Dunc says, “well don’t give me too much, but I could use a few games off”

    4) So they hurried it before the usual 72 hours concussion protocal,, WHICH THEY HAD in reserve this particular instance. Now what happens if we hear that Danny is out for the season between now and Sunday? I will guarantee that Shanny (who sounds so much like Colon, when he simpers out his explanation) will probably be forced to comment on it, but do nothing. Oh, oh now he is acting like Collie. As in here boy, good dog! Embarrassing that they took one of my favorite hockey players hired him and then had him fixed so that he was less aggressive.

    5) The whole thing smacks of an old boys fix it around the pickle barrel in the back room.

    6) Very glad you pointed out the Canuck appologists who refuse to believe that the Canucks are not ALWAYS somehow wrong or that they will look like a homer for saying “HuH WTF” when confronted with the fact “That Henriks hits was as bad or worse than Keiths”

    7) As long as Canucks fans do not stand up for their team this crap is going to get worse, unless we co-operate like the other Canadian teams and become irrelevant.

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    • Daniel W.
      March 24, 2012

      what do you mean by standing up for our team?
      I’m not being sarcastic, I would like an honest answer!

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      • shoes
        March 24, 2012

        Read the article again….a good number of Canucks fans, in an effort to appear as “non-homers” jumped on the Sedin deserved a game too bandwagon. PTIB hit this on the head with his comment……..your answer lies in that.

        Sedins hit was unremarkable and while it could have had 2 minutes….it certainly would not have made any news story if the keith hit had not taken place and way too many canucks fans feel the need to not complain because other fans bases have labeled us as complainers….

        Did you happen to notice….no comment from Gillis and instead Gilman was sent out to say “we are fine with it” The decision was far from fine and it was smelly and tainted, even right down to the timing. they ALWAYS wait for a medical report and they had 48 more hours before Keith played again. So why the rush and the confusion and the general selective wording.

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  23. peanutflower
    March 24, 2012

    I for one expected nothing different. There is clearly collusion at every level of the NHL management from referees on up. What happened to waiting the 72 hours to see what Daniel’s injury was? Why the rush to judgment? Why the confusion about waiving the in person hearing? Why choose to believe Keith’s statement about no retaliation? Why not look at the three prior incidents? What’s on his record should have stayed on his record and had a bearing in this decision. If I were the Sedins I would play out the years remaining in my contract and get the hell out of this shit show, because that’s what it’s become. The refereeing started getting bad last year and this year it’s completely off the rails, and not just for the Canucks. There’s way too much pay back and phantom calls and non calls and make up calls. The rules might as well not exist, as bendable and flexible as they appear to be now. Either Shanahan has completely bought into the old boy system or he’s so hamstrung by it that he cannot make his own decisions. Either way, it’s clear that it doesn’t work, the whole thing, and it’s sure taken the pleasure out of watching the game for this hockey loving family.

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    • Amor de Cosmos
      March 24, 2012

      I agree with every word of peanut flower’s post. I avoided watching the Chicago game because I was afraid of just this kind of incident. If the Canucks meet the Hawks in the play-offs I’ll stay as far away from the series as I can — maybe even leave the country for a couple of weeks (seriously.)

      The NHL is nothing but a bush league with delusions of grandeur. The contrast this week between how the NFL handles premeditated ‘outside the rules’ conduct within its sport and how the NHL turns its face to wall is both stark and instructive. Much more of it and I’m gone for good. There are more enjoyable ways of spending what remains of my life than watching young men try and injure each other while so-called fans attempt to justify it

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  24. Brian
    March 24, 2012

    I originally thought that the suspension was about right, in spite of being a Canucks’ fan and being worried that Sedin will miss the season and playoffs. Upon further reflection, I do see that the wrong message was sent. This only hurts if the Hawks miss the playoffs, which they probably won’t. It would be intriging, however, if they dropped to the 7 seed and we got to face them in the first round again. Very intriguing.

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    • Brian
      March 24, 2012

      This should not be able about hurting the Blackhawks, that is the wrong way to look at a solution. It needs to be punishment to Keith Duncan, 5 games is punishment but not enough if the league is serious about protecting its players from obvious dangerous hits to the head.

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  25. Superreggie
    March 24, 2012

    I think that the only thing that would satisfy me if they were to make the suspension last as long as Daniel is out of the game, plus five games. A system like that would take head shots out of the game, no?

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  26. Brent
    March 24, 2012

    Strangely enough, I am looking forward to Don “Dinosaur” Cherries view on the hit. I am sure he loves that good old Canadian boy Keith, but he also has come down hard on these so called inadvertent elbows to the head. Not entirely sure how he is going to dance around the subject….hhmm…..maybe dance is not the correct term, possibly “sedated bull in a china shop” is more appropriate.

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    • dougster
      March 24, 2012

      Cherry? I am sure we all know what he will focus on: Daniel’s hit on Keith, and Burrows v. Keith later in the game. There will be a lot of ex-post justification for what Keith did but a side-of-the-mouth acknowledgement that the elbow was not the right way to go about retribution. I stopped watching/listening to the Cherry/Ron show after Ron went off on Burrows.

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      • stathead
        March 24, 2012

        Well, “focus” may be the wrong word, dougster. :) “Hey kids, never do this. Do we have the video? No, no, the video… with… yeah… no, the other one… kids, never do this…” and he’ll keep talking for awhile, and after a bit it will seem like he somehow isn’t talking about the Sedin hit anymore and suddenly different footage from another game will come up.

        I do not envy the guy whose job it is to figure out what he’s talking about and get the right video up.

        I want to see if he talks about the Canucks’ “toughness” in the last few or just acts like it never happened…

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      • stathead
        March 24, 2012

        you called it! If a Bruins player had done Daniel’s hit, nothing but praise, of course… bah humbug, Cherry.

        At least he showed how obsolete and random he is by going on at length about some Leafs player called up from the minors who he thinks deserves a roster spot on the league since several years, right after that controversial hit and suspension, and just going into the endgame of the playoff races. WTF?

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