Spitballin’ on Cory Schneider’s ever-rising worth, nerdy Hodgson, and stuff Canucks fans don’t say

Spitballin’ (or Super Pass ITBulis: All In, if you love adventurous acronymizing) is a feature that allows us to touch on a multitude of things really fast, because in the world of hockey, there are always lots of things to find and colour. Here are a few topics that deserve mention.

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Cory Schneider, big asset

I was one of many saying that Mike Gillis should look to trade Cory Schneider at the deadline for some help on the blueline’s right side (and I remain convinced that Schneider was available if a team was willing to pay big), but Gillis instead chose to place his trust in Chris Tanev and hold on to Schneider for the playoff run as goaltending insurance.

This is, of course, not without its risks. (Personally, I’m more annoyed Gillis didn’t bring in a veteran D-man than I am that he traded Hodgson.) But the payoff could be immense.

In the last month, the goaltending landscape in the NHL has changed drastically. Many teams are having goaltending issues down the stretch, and they likely won’t have these issues sorted out by the draft. There may not have been many suitors early in the year when a lot of teams liked their guys, but as the season’s worn on, the list of teams that could use Cory Schneider’s services continues to grow. Now it’s nearly half the league.

Unlike last year, when the goalie market was so slim Tomas Vokoun had to settle for a cheap, one-year deal, Schneider will be highly coveted this summer. He’ll likely have two years of strong playoff experience, he won’t cost a boatload to re-sign, and he would be a welcome upgrade in New Jersey, Long Island, Philadelphia, Ottawa, Toronto, Florida, Tampa Bay, Washington, Winnipeg, Chicago, Columbus, Colorado and Edmonton. Talk about a bidding war. If Schneider is traded, he should bring a bounty in return.

Cory Schneider, big ass

Here’s a video in which Kevin Bieksa discusses how much Schneider means to the Canucks, then intentionally mishears an Iain MacIntyre question to comedic effect.

The best part is the “Why I oughta” afterward. More threatening the media, please.

Cody Hodgson: still a nerd

In case it wasn’t clear that trading hypernerd Cody Hodgson for monstrous Zack Kassian upgrades the Canucks’ toughness, consider the following images, taken from their first games with their new clubs:

Oh, what’s that you say? The cameraman just happened to catch Hodgson at an angle where he looked extra dorky and fragile and you selectively contrasted it with a photo of Kassian snarling and looking tough? You’re telling me this is highly manipulative and doesn’t speak to skill level in the slightest?

All valid points. You’re adorable. Go play outside.

S*** Canucks fans don’t say

And finally, Legion of Blog’s “S*** Canucks Fans Say” did so well that they were unable to resist the temptation to make a sequel. Did they ruin the franchise, George Lucas-style? No. “S*** Canucks Fans Don’t Say,” is pretty darn good, as sequels go. It’s no The Empire Strikes Back, but neither is it Attack of the Clones, so I’d call it a success:

Ryan Kesler’s photo? Not at all sexually confusing, says the guy who claims women look “Trevor Linden good.”

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31 comments

  1. Mack
    March 1, 2012

    I seem to remember you being pretty certain Schneider would move at the deadline. Did you have anyone in particular in mind?

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      I had my heart set on Adrian Aucoin, but that well went dry when the Coyotes kept winning, dammit.

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  2. TubaNat
    March 1, 2012

    Nice video at the end, made me watch the first one again.
    “I hope we lose a couple so we win it at home in game 7 – oh that’d be the best” still gets me every time – Brilliant!

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  3. Dub J
    March 1, 2012

    What are the two years of deep playoff experience that you are referring to? Let’s not get ahead of ourselves yet…

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      Agreed. That was poorly worded. I’ve touched it up.

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  4. V
    March 1, 2012

    I’m always happy to see a Spitballin’ post go up in a workday, then disappointed as I remember I can’t watch the videos until I get home later. Like I didn’t already have enough reasons to want this day to be over!

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  5. aidanbc
    March 1, 2012

    Anyone know what hit/”hockey play” Bieksa was talking about at the end of that clip?

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      There was a collision midway through the game where he and Kesler wound up sandwiching a guy. Don’t remember who, though.

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  6. I (heart) Cooperalls
    March 1, 2012

    I miss the Kurtenblog.

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    • Tristan
      March 1, 2012

      I don’t really think this is the time or place for that sentiment…but I know that feel, bro.
      I miss Kurtenblog Radio, really. PITB surpassed the quality of their online output a ways back.
      Pass It To Radio, gentlemen? Do you have sonorous tones?

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      • channerman
        March 1, 2012

        The ex-Kurtenbloggers are back with a radio show – it started last week – it’s on Saturdays at 3pm on 1040 and ends earlier during Canuck games.

        http://feeds.feedburner.com/TEAMRadio-HockeyTalk

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        • Tristan
          March 1, 2012

          Whaa? Awesome! Thanks man! My TEAM listenership had dwindled a bit since their departure.

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        • HumanCannonball
          March 2, 2012

          Thank you so much for letting me know about Hockey Talk! Downloading the first episode on iTunes as I type.

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  7. Chris
    March 1, 2012

    Ottawa has goaltenders coming out the yang. After Craig Anderson, they just acquired young Ben Bishop, and witnessed a shutout of the defending champs by young hotshot Robin Lehner. Alex BAuld will probably be sent packing but I doubt they’re in on Schneids. And I imagine Florida gives a bigger shot to 22 year old Jacob Markstrom too, rather than have to send a bunch more players along the Florida-Vancouver pipeline for Schneider. But otherwise you’re probably right about there being a lot of suitors for the Ginga Ninja.

    The flip side is, there are some very solid goalies for sale too. In addition to us, St Louis and Boston both have two no. 1 guys, and LA has Quick and Bernier and may try to sell high with Quick a year from UFA. Minnesota will also likely have to make a call with Josh Harding due a raise. So the demand is high, but the supply on the trade market is also worth considering

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      While I agree that Ottawa has a lot of goaltenders and Florida has Markstrom coming, Schneider’s an improvement on what any guy in either of their systems can give to them next year. I agree that they could stand pat with what they’ve got, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t at least kick the tires on Schneider.

      And yes, St. Louis has two guys, but anybody that thinks Elliott or Halak is a better goaltender than Schneider is crazy. Ken Hitchcock’s system is playing a major role there. LA has two guys, but I don’t think they’re trading Quick and Bernier’s not as proven as Schneider. Minnesota will indeed be moving a guy, but, again, Schneider has to be more appealing than Harding or Backstrom, whose numbers fluctuate wildly depending on the defensive system in front of them.

      I see what you’re saying — there’s far more to consider than just Schneider — but I stand by my point: he’s likely the most desirable goalie on the market and every team I mentioned could make a case for going after him.

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      • Maqywhaq
        March 1, 2012

        So expect more tire pumping this post season? Someone better inform the other team, or Luu might over handle that for us…

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      • Chris
        March 1, 2012

        I like Schneider a lot, don’t get me wrong. In a past life, I would always be frustrated by trade proposals etc where I invariably found Schneider to be grossly underrated by our fans. Mind you, a similar thing kept happening more recently with a certain Liev Schreiber look-alike who shall remain nameless, but I digress…

        But come on, Jaro Halak dragged the Habs to the ECF from an extreme underdog position. And if we’re going to take his numbers with a grain of salt on account of Hitch, shouldn’t we also take his less good numbers the year before with a similar grain on account of the Blues being a team of very young players with an inexperienced head coach? Say what you will about Elliott, but the guy’s leading in GA and is second in save percentage, the latter being far more reflective of individual play than the team. Bernier is certainly less proven, but the Kings’ brass still possibly see him as the goalie of the future, and could get just as much for Quick as we could for Schneids. Harding is a step down, but that means the asking price is also going to be a step down. And Boston will probably choose to move Thomas and keep the younger Rask, and as much as Thomas is on the backside of his career, a team like Washington or especially Chicago that thinks they have the other pieces to contend now will be enticed by last year’s Conn Smythe winner. Maybe Philly too, but they have so many years of Bryzgalov left that they probably need to accept that they’ve hitched the wagons to him for the time being.

        The Islanders may pursue him next in their apparent goal to eventually have every NHL goaltender play for them, thus crippling the other teams’ ability to compete by having no goaltender.

        I see Tampa Bay and Columbus as the most likely destinations. Not teams the Canucks are worried about trading with, and the most desperate for a major upgrade at the position. Perhaps to the Lightning for a package including Brett Connolly, another roster player and some draft picks?

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  8. Amor de Cosmos
    March 1, 2012

    Does anyone think it’s remotely possible they might move Luongo instead of Schneider? I know he’s got the thousand year contact and all but his yearly cap hit isn’t too bad for a goalie of his rep, and if he drops a couple of clutch games in the playoffs again… Plus his family’s still in Florida which can’t be ideal.

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  9. Tristan
    March 1, 2012

    That’s Kassian “snarling and looking tough”? I sincerely hope Zack does achieve Lucic-levels of physical dominance some day, but Milan has him beat in the scary glower department, no contest.

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  10. Locode
    March 1, 2012

    I just want to know who the press guy was that was still using the cassette recorder? What does he write for, the cheapest company in the business?

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      Maybe he’s super-retro?

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  11. Nee
    March 1, 2012

    That’s a pretty great sequel.

    “Trevor Linden sucks”…… /slap
    “Here is my son, Mark Messier”

    They should do more : )

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  12. sarah
    March 1, 2012

    Poor Cody is never going to shake the nerd label. On Grantland today, Katie Baker referred to him as a nerd. Look what you guys started!

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    • Harrison Mooney
      March 1, 2012

      Ha! That’s perfect.

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  13. Lenny
    March 1, 2012

    I wouldn’t ask for anything less than a Landeskog or a Hedman for Schneider.

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    • J21
      March 2, 2012

      Problem is, the Canucks are going to be relatively desperate to unload him before offer sheet season, and I’m sure teams won’t be quite so willing to play ball.

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      • Warpstone
        March 2, 2012

        It depends on the CBA and their RFA/UFA plans. If Mason is let go and a few other moves are made, the Canucks could easily try to do a sign & trade with Schneider.

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  14. akidd
    March 1, 2012

    funny vid. the last line(“they should trade cody hodgson,”) was supposed to be just as ironic as the rest i’m guessing and was even a punchline of sorts it seemed. are they implying that most hardcore canuck fans didn’t think they should trade cody hodgson? that doesn’t seem the sentiment i get from your blog. why is that?

    and ya, i know this is just stirring the shite after all the trauma of the past few days. i just can’t seem to get over it yet i guess, especially while waiting for iwtg so i can vent about what very well could be the end of entertaining canuck hockey now that av has won the boardroom battle and has the team he wants to play the defensive style he loves. it’s a winning style i’ll admit but…so much for the art. also, kassian looked real good tonight.

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    • bergberg
      March 2, 2012

      It sounds like your trying to pit fans against fans for who is the most “hardcore”, and who is just following “PITB”. We all have our own opinions. Some people agree with you, some people don’t. I think it’s time to give it a rest.

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    • peanutflower
      March 2, 2012

      But the question is, I guess, if the Canucks win the Cup will anyone care what style of hockey they played to do that? I know I won’t.

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  15. Phileo99
    March 1, 2012

    it was poking some (hopefully harmless) fun at the vast number of canucks fans who were emotionally attached to CoHo.
    Yes, they traded scoring depth for defensive depth (not just d-men). Everyone can argue their favourite side till the cows turn paisley pink and then come home. Regardless, these low scoring games are a natural consequence of more defensive depth, and with more to come – Dallas 3x, Wild and Coyotes each one more time. I’ve learned to come to terms with suffering through more of these low scoring snooze fests because the real show is still to come.
    And that Lortimer guy should learn to spell Pahlsson correctly if he wants to win credibility with his arguments in favour of keeping CoHo. I mean, is it that hard to click the mouse a couple of times??? I mean, I was in favour of keeping CoHo, but nothing turns me off like bad spelling, followed by bad grammar.
    While we wait for IWTG, I find this Photo Odd:

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/6238005.bin?size=620x400s

    Is that Brother Daniel releasing the hounds of years of being born second by giving his beloved Big Brother an in your face face wash ? Or is Brother Henrik just leaking out his uncontrollable desire for glove sweat?

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